{"id":668,"date":"2018-08-22T20:59:45","date_gmt":"2018-08-23T00:59:45","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/datsunworks.com\/Blog\/?p=668"},"modified":"2018-08-22T21:21:58","modified_gmt":"2018-08-23T01:21:58","slug":"tall-deck-timing-chain","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/datsunworks.com\/Blog\/2018\/08\/22\/tall-deck-timing-chain\/","title":{"rendered":"Tall deck timing chain."},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I&#8217;m convinced when they design a motor the first thing they do is the timing chain. Talk about restrictive.<\/p>\n<p>SN005 is building a tall deck motor so I needed to work out what we were doing on the timing chain. I was hoping that my normal KA setup would work with a redesigned pivot for the tensioner arm.<\/p>\n<p>Using my normal method of mocking up substituting plastic for metal.\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/datsunworks.com\/Blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/08\/IMG_2194.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-677\" src=\"https:\/\/datsunworks.com\/Blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/08\/IMG_2194.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2448\" height=\"3264\" srcset=\"https:\/\/datsunworks.com\/Blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/08\/IMG_2194.jpg 2448w, https:\/\/datsunworks.com\/Blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/08\/IMG_2194-225x300.jpg 225w, https:\/\/datsunworks.com\/Blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/08\/IMG_2194-768x1024.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2448px) 100vw, 2448px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Actually worked out better than the normal setup. It looks like the extra height on the head will allow the arm to clear the timing cover without modifying the cover.<\/p>\n<p>It uses all the stuff from a KA24 timing chain kit except the bottom chain needs to be a 94 link instead of the 92.<\/p>\n<p>I was trying to get the arm closer to the tensioner but this is the best I&#8217;m going to get. Each full link you add or subtract shortens or lengthens the chain by 5\/8\u201d so the adjustment is pretty coarse. \u00a0The guides are stock out of the box Nissan KA24. The jumper brackets on the tension side are temporary. I\u2019ll design something a little better.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m happy with the angle on the top tensioner. The upper brackets should start to become a standard item at this point. I changed the way the cam cores are being produced. I&#8217;m bringing the cams to length after heat treating and then shipping them to Schnieder for OD turning. This is giving me a lot more control.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/datsunworks.com\/Blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/08\/IMG_2196.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-678\" src=\"https:\/\/datsunworks.com\/Blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/08\/IMG_2196.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2448\" height=\"3264\" srcset=\"https:\/\/datsunworks.com\/Blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/08\/IMG_2196.jpg 2448w, https:\/\/datsunworks.com\/Blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/08\/IMG_2196-225x300.jpg 225w, https:\/\/datsunworks.com\/Blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/08\/IMG_2196-768x1024.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2448px) 100vw, 2448px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>This is what I settled on. A sub plate for the idler and a sub plate for the pivot guide and tensioner.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/datsunworks.com\/Blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/08\/IMG_2201.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-669\" src=\"https:\/\/datsunworks.com\/Blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/08\/IMG_2201.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"3264\" height=\"2448\" srcset=\"https:\/\/datsunworks.com\/Blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/08\/IMG_2201.jpg 3264w, https:\/\/datsunworks.com\/Blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/08\/IMG_2201-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/datsunworks.com\/Blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/08\/IMG_2201-768x576.jpg 768w, https:\/\/datsunworks.com\/Blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/08\/IMG_2201-1024x768.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 3264px) 100vw, 3264px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Then a spacer plate to bring the tensioner into the correct position.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/datsunworks.com\/Blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/08\/IMG_2202.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-670\" src=\"https:\/\/datsunworks.com\/Blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/08\/IMG_2202.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"3264\" height=\"2448\" srcset=\"https:\/\/datsunworks.com\/Blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/08\/IMG_2202.jpg 3264w, https:\/\/datsunworks.com\/Blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/08\/IMG_2202-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/datsunworks.com\/Blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/08\/IMG_2202-768x576.jpg 768w, https:\/\/datsunworks.com\/Blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/08\/IMG_2202-1024x768.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 3264px) 100vw, 3264px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>I drilled the top gears so that they have 2.5 degrees adjustment and the cams are doweled to break that into 1.25 degree increments.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/datsunworks.com\/Blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/08\/IMG_2204.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-672\" src=\"https:\/\/datsunworks.com\/Blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/08\/IMG_2204.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"3264\" height=\"2448\" srcset=\"https:\/\/datsunworks.com\/Blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/08\/IMG_2204.jpg 3264w, https:\/\/datsunworks.com\/Blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/08\/IMG_2204-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/datsunworks.com\/Blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/08\/IMG_2204-768x576.jpg 768w, https:\/\/datsunworks.com\/Blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/08\/IMG_2204-1024x768.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 3264px) 100vw, 3264px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Bottom gear is new. It is a triplex 06P sprocket from Martin Sprocket with the teeth case hardened. I then bored, reamed and honed it out to 35mm.<\/p>\n<p>Before and after.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/datsunworks.com\/Blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/08\/IMG_2209.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-674\" src=\"https:\/\/datsunworks.com\/Blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/08\/IMG_2209.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2448\" height=\"3264\" srcset=\"https:\/\/datsunworks.com\/Blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/08\/IMG_2209.jpg 2448w, https:\/\/datsunworks.com\/Blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/08\/IMG_2209-225x300.jpg 225w, https:\/\/datsunworks.com\/Blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/08\/IMG_2209-768x1024.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2448px) 100vw, 2448px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>The idea is that the inner and outer sprockets will provide strength to the middle driving set. This is way better than what I was running on the prototype. There is 3.5mm of adjustment front to rear via shim packs. This will make setting up the chains a lot easier.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/datsunworks.com\/Blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/08\/IMG_2210.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-679\" src=\"https:\/\/datsunworks.com\/Blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/08\/IMG_2210.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"3264\" height=\"2448\" srcset=\"https:\/\/datsunworks.com\/Blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/08\/IMG_2210.jpg 3264w, https:\/\/datsunworks.com\/Blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/08\/IMG_2210-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/datsunworks.com\/Blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/08\/IMG_2210-768x576.jpg 768w, https:\/\/datsunworks.com\/Blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/08\/IMG_2210-1024x768.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 3264px) 100vw, 3264px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Came together just fine.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/datsunworks.com\/Blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/08\/IMG_2214.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-683\" src=\"https:\/\/datsunworks.com\/Blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/08\/IMG_2214.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2448\" height=\"3264\" srcset=\"https:\/\/datsunworks.com\/Blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/08\/IMG_2214.jpg 2448w, https:\/\/datsunworks.com\/Blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/08\/IMG_2214-225x300.jpg 225w, https:\/\/datsunworks.com\/Blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/08\/IMG_2214-768x1024.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2448px) 100vw, 2448px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/datsunworks.com\/Blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/08\/IMG_2211-1.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-680\" src=\"https:\/\/datsunworks.com\/Blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/08\/IMG_2211-1.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"3264\" height=\"2448\" srcset=\"https:\/\/datsunworks.com\/Blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/08\/IMG_2211-1.jpg 3264w, https:\/\/datsunworks.com\/Blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/08\/IMG_2211-1-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/datsunworks.com\/Blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/08\/IMG_2211-1-768x576.jpg 768w, https:\/\/datsunworks.com\/Blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/08\/IMG_2211-1-1024x768.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 3264px) 100vw, 3264px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Hopefully I&#8217;ll be able to get this kind of fit on the regular height blocks.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I&#8217;m convinced when they design a motor the first thing they do is the timing chain. Talk about restrictive. SN005 is building a tall deck motor so I needed to work out what we were doing on the timing chain. 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